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scottdallas
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I love how Cutenews 1.4.5 advertises:
You don't need MySQL, everything is stored in files
That used to be a turn-on.. but now it's a turn-off! In other words that's saying, "Your site cannot be very large" but oh well whatever I can't crack on them. They are the focal point of my favorite CMS. I just think that having BOTH options for flat file and mysql is the best choice.
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Well, i don't know about 'Your site cannot be very large'.
Think most websites aren't that big, though big enough for cnr.
For example, look at Ramon's websites, specially fminside.nl and his other sports domains...
Those are pretty big, with many registered users, over 2000 articles etc
Dunno, but cnr can handle that pretty good. Don't know if Ramon has used the flat file or the mysql.
But his site are running smoothly and fast. But i agree on the file and mysql option. Great cms, that tiny cnr!
And with all it's hacks, features, plugins, code re-writing here and there you have a hell of an application that certainly is not standing in the shadows of other cms's.
There are so many cms's availabl these days, and believe me, i try every month a couple, just to see if there might be an alternative for cnr.
But i still haven't found one that i can compair. Hopefully cnr will excised for a long time. And even more hoping of a newer version with many more options.
If you start viewing topics here and write down all hacks, plugins, tips and extra codes to make cnr more powerfull, it'll take probably 8 hours to write and read. If all those extra things were implemented in a new version, geez... what a massive application we have here!
The only thing what really bothers me is, that cnr always uses the specified url path of the givin file, the index.php, for the full stories.
That should and could be changed, not by me. I'm really a noob with that. Wish it was possible to use the template and category you've made in cnr for the full stories. Maybe, some day... you'll never know... time will learn and patient is a good thing to have.
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scottdallas
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 | | For example, look at Ramon's websites, specially fminside.nl and his other sports domains...
Those are pretty big, with many registered users, over 2000 articles etc |
He's gotta be using mysql.. maybe I'm wrong but I was always under the impression he was. So, tell us Ramon, are you lol?
My point is just that.. a txt file is sooner or later going to fall apart or make your site real slow. I'm thinking rather large though. 2000 is not large enough to me. I want to create databases that hold thousands and maybe millions of pieces of content. That's when it gets fun for me. I can play with different ways of displaying content, playing with the search bar, change the way things display when other users click things, find ways to show related results, etc.. I guess you don't need a database of too many items before you have lots of content to look at and look through but still.. the larger the more fun.. that's all. I mean at least you have no worries with mysql..
But, as I said.. flat file has it's place and I love that it's an option. There are many things that flat file is perfect for. It just makes me nervous after I've crashed so many of them and lost an entire day or two. I'm not very familiar with cutenews these days and what it's flat file limitations are.. All I know is that I'm probably never going to take the time to fill up the database and see how long before it crashes. I have a feeling the reason cutenews.ru crashes after so many news items is completely unrelated to the original cutenews and perhaps the original cutenews will never crash.. but I know it will get slow one day. Giant txt files can't be fun for anyone to sift through, not even a computer.
| | The only thing what really bothers me is, that cnr always uses the specified url path of the givin file, the index.php, for the full stories. |
I agree it's not easily understood that this can be easily changed to a newbie but.. it can definitely be anything you want. I don't see why that bothers you so much though. Of all things I think that's one of the super minor things I'd like to see changed with the script.
| | Wish it was possible to use the template and category you've made in cnr for the full stories. |
Elaborate? There's only one scenario I can think of relating to this that is currently impossible. I've achieved almost every other weird thing I've tried to do with templates and categories.. including making a separate template with only the comment box so I could put it in an iframe ABOVE the listed comments on the {full-story}, which actually worked.. or am I talking about something completely different like altogether like a jackass? haha 
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D72
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| | The only thing what really bothers me is, that cnr always uses the specified url path of the givin file, the index.php, for the full stories. |
| | I agree it's not easily understood that this can be easily changed to a newbie but.. it can definitely be anything you want. I don't see why that bothers you so much though. Of all things I think that's one of the super minor things I'd like to see changed with the script. |
Well, it bothers me in the way, because i, for example, i have a website. Menu structure is like: Home, Bio, Schedule
I've customized every page with it's own images, own vibe and subject related elements.
Home has images wich tells you're on the home page etc etc
But when i click on 'read more' of an article on the Schedule page, the full story will be visible using the template of 'Home' (or what you've giving..)
The full story isnt using the 'Biography template'
So i that case i always have to make a standard template for the full stories so it won't give misunderstandings to visitors.
For example: | | www.spinrock.nl |
If you go here, just navigate true the pages from the main menu. You'll see that every page has it's own images etc. Specially the 'red cotton tab' on the left wich is telling on wich page you are. But if you choose to read a full story, you see that the full story uses the template of Home.
So i changed that template for full stories with a common layout.
Wow, what a story...
Bu ti hope you understand my point. I don't think it's possible to have it like i want it. But it would be nice though...
I'm in a hurry right now and will replay you other answers later on.
| | Wish it was possible to use the template and category you've made in cnr for the full stories. |
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scottdallas
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You're right, you described the one impossible scenario lol... I don't know how to make it do that.. and if fidd can't either.. wow.. lol ya know?
Damn I'm in a hurry too my gf wants me and she got ice cream.. so.. I mean like I can't let that melt. Time to eat yum yum hahaha
hey but.. the website spinrock.nl came out really good it's beautiful. At first I was like wtf.. then the background and white parts came in (cause I have really shitty internet.. fuckin sbc and their marketing.. I knew I should have stayed with cable internet) anyway the white and background came in and the images and I was like OHHH okay that's bad ass now lol.. reminds me of suicide girls.. but they used Georgia and I like your font more.. plus you used transparency in the menu and that's hard to pull off and still look cool... which you did excellently.
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| | You're right, you described the one impossible scenario lol... I don't know how to make it do that.. and if fidd can't either.. wow.. lol ya know?
Damn I'm in a hurry too my gf wants me and she got ice cream.. so.. I mean like I can't let that melt. Time to eat yum yum hahaha
hey but.. the website spinrock.nl came out really good it's beautiful. At first I was like wtf.. then the background and white parts came in (cause I have really shitty internet.. fuckin sbc and their marketing.. I knew I should have stayed with cable internet) anyway the white and background came in and the images and I was like OHHH okay that's bad ass now lol.. reminds me of suicide girls.. but they used Georgia and I like your font more.. plus you used transparency in the menu and that's hard to pull off and still look cool... which you did excellently. |
Yes, to bad that it's impossible. Keep my fingers crossed. Maybe one day it might happen.
And Spinrock, yeah there are some nice elements in it. But it's not my taste. The Spinrockers wanted it this way and their quiet happy with it. That make me a happy human being too. Looks like SG? omg. That website is stunning. Really have an eye for details over there. And my transparency in themenu is so easy. Just check the css  But thanks for the compliments My websites are always to heavy because it has to load to many images 
So i dont know if it's your internet connection
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scottdallas
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| | So i dont know if it's your internet connection |
Yeah, it's my internet lol I noticed it's like 10-30 kb/s downloads lately.. it's awful. I've been thinking up what to say when I call the internet company. I don't know if I should be mad, cancel, switch to cable or try to work it out.
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Ramon
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WTF 30 KB´s, where no longer in the middle ages scott.
btw I use Mysql, I started using CNR because it had the option to use a MYSQL database instead of a flat-file system
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scottdallas
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| | WTF 30 KB´s, where no longer in the middle ages scott. |
You're right.. it's gotta go immediately. I have 4 computers all intertwined together and it's really not enjoyable to use them knowing my internet is going to supremely suck.
| | btw I use Mysql, I started using CNR because it had the option to use a MYSQL database instead of a flat-file system |
My story is the same
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[quote=scottdallas]I noticed it's like 10-30 kb/s downloads lately[/quote]
 o h m y g o d . . .
[quote=Ramon]btw I use Mysql, I started using CNR because it had the option to use a MYSQL database instead of a flat-file system[/quote]
Thought so too, with your large amount of content and users you should use mysql. But the thing i like is, that cnr can handle such big communities/websites.
And still running fast. And maybe most interesting thing (for me) Google likes the cnr driven sites.
It's a shame that cnr isn't valid xhtml or any other valid coding. But personally i don't realy care.
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scottdallas
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haha, your reaction to my internet is hilarious. i should care more. i tested it again today trying to download aim from download.com and it fluctuated in the 20-30 kb/sec. ridiculous! only a few more days... well you both made me realize i'm retarded for not doing this sooner. after i explained everything rationally to them they let me have a free month and waived the early termination fee and i ordered my cable.
| | It's a shame that cnr isn't valid xhtml or any other valid coding. But personally i don't realy care. |
I kinda feel the same way. I always think.. maybe I should care.. then I wonder why? Can't come up with good reasons.. then forget about it.
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D72
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| | haha, your reaction to my internet is hilarious. i should care more. i tested it again today trying to download aim from download.com and it fluctuated in the 20-30 kb/sec. ridiculous! only a few more days... well you both made me realize i'm retarded for not doing this sooner. after i explained everything rationally to them they let me have a free month and waived the early termination fee and i ordered my cable.
| | It's a shame that cnr isn't valid xhtml or any other valid coding. But personally i don't realy care. |
I kinda feel the same way. I always think.. maybe I should care.. then I wonder why? Can't come up with good reasons.. then forget about it. |
Well, that's good news Scott. Really Speedy Gonzales internet speed isn't necessary in my opinion. But downloading with +/- 25kb p.sec
That is ridiculous frustrating. Specially when you share your connection with more computers. Don't know how the prices are in 'Dallas'
But here, i pay for my cable subscription around ?70,- that will be around $110.36 per month.
Therefore i have a Digital television total package, an unrestricted phone subscription and internet with * Download: 4000 kbit/s - * Upload: 1000 kbit/s. All in one.
And the prices are still going down.
I do exactly feel the same.
In some cases my websites are valid xhtml. I think there is something going wrong in the tpl files.
When i try to validate some sites, it goes wrong right on top of every page. Mostly the validator assumes that there are errors in my meta tags like:
You have used character data somewhere it is not permitted to appear. Mistakes that can cause this error include:
 | | * putting text directly in the body of the document without wrapping it in a container element (such as a <p>aragraph</p>), or
* forgetting to quote an attribute value (where characters such as "%" and "/" are common, but cannot appear without surrounding quotes), or
* using XHTML-style self-closing tags (such as <meta ... />) in HTML 4.01 or earlier. To fix, remove the extra slash ('/') character. |
That's pretty weird if you ask me. When i slice a layout, make the xhtml valid, my layout is Valid!
But after i use it with cnr, the validator is hating me...
So i know what you feel. Should i consider this or should i leave it this way because everything works fine?
Well, i stick with the last part. F*ck it... everything works smoothly. But... i do have mixed feelings... some times...
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scottdallas
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As long as the browsers never stop supporting our so called wrong code. I think it's right though, it was one day so I don't see why it still isn't. I like the new way too. Happy medium?
| | Don't know how the prices are in 'Dallas' |
Dallas is my middle name lol the price for my internet is $45/mo in Ohio. I don't get the package cause I don't have a tv. If the computer can't entertain me, that'll be the day. But, they have 4 speeds of internet now, I went with the package that matched the speeds I was used to getting from my cable service. For $55/mo I get turbo. I want to see how this works out. I'm sure it's going to blow this away. I took off the dsl filter today and my internet now goes 50-75 kb/s but I still want more, that's still stupid. At least I can stream a shoutcast station while I surf web pages... geez. Your package sounds sweet though.
Hey can you answer me this?
| | Download: 4000 kbit/s - * Upload: 1000 kbit/s. All in one. |
Would you say that writing the speeds in this manner is for marketing purposes? No one talks about kilobits per second unless you're talking to a internet company.. or in other words a paid internet salesperson. Using bits per second makes it so you can use a much larger number to say how fast the internet is.. but I guarantee you'll never have a 4000 kb/s download. That's 4 mb! I just wish they'd be like when you click a download it's going to go about 300-500 kilobytes per second and I'll be like oh okay thanks for using regular terminology. Cause see now like when I call up the internet company all their computer idiots on the phone are brainwashed in this kilobits/second world and they don't even have any idea what that number means. I know cause when I ask anything about it they have to put me on old and ask a supervisor. Guess what their answer always is? "Well we just don't know but we can guarantee it'll go 7345 down and 1500 up!" or whatever... I just think it was a deceiving and pointless new way of referring to transfer rates. lol sorry for goin on and on about that I've actually been thinking about that for a while the last few days.. and I've actually always thought that for years.
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Ah well, as long as you know this.
8 bit = 1 Byte
1024 B = 1 KB(Kilo Byte) | 1 KB = 8 Kb(Kilo bit)
1024 KB = 1 MB(Mega Byte) | 1 MB = 8 Mb(Mega bit)
1024 MB = 1 GB(Giga Byte) | 1 GB = 8 Gb(Giga bit)
1024 GB = 1 TB(Tera Byte) | 1 TB = 8 Tb(Tera bit)
Then you're fine and you won't be screwed..
At home our connection sits around 600 KB(<- That's an uppercase) p/s. But when i'm at school its around 3 MB p/s.. Sweet _O_
I'm always downloading my series at school, funny thing is that uploading at school is even faster then downloading.
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BTW. http://www.fmnewmedia.nl/ is CNR driven AND XHTML valid
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| | 8 bit = 1 Byte
1024 B = 1 KB(Kilo Byte) | 1 KB = 8 Kb(Kilo bit)
1024 KB = 1 MB(Mega Byte) | 1 MB = 8 Mb(Mega bit)
1024 MB = 1 GB(Giga Byte) | 1 GB = 8 Gb(Giga bit)
1024 GB = 1 TB(Tera Byte) | 1 TB = 8 Tb(Tera bit) |
Thank you, that clears up a lot Well, now I know. But when was this system adopted? It seems sufficient enough to just stick with bytes, not bits. I download bytes, I don't want bits of bytes. I just want my bytes. No where on my computer does it ever tell me anything in bits, ever.
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